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Robertthesnapper
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« on: November 03, 2009, 02:43:22 PM »

Hi all.
I am not sure how you guys would take to this idea. I know that the digital is the most popular format of photography now. However old fogies like my still love and use film when ever we get a chance. Just a thought how about an in club competition using film format. I know that a lot of people won't have access to a dark room, how ever as the club now has a film scanner that could sort out that problem, I am also aware that some people might not have a film camera, I have some stuff which I could lending out as long as you don't mind using Canon equipment. Lol.
My reason for suggesting this is a selfish one I am afraid. I am trying to keep this old format alive.
Indeed if any one wants to learn how to process B&W film I have all the stuff including chemicals at home to show you how to do this.

Just an idea.

Robert.
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« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2009, 05:09:20 PM »

Hi Robert,

I think it is a great idea, as I am trying (yes I know - still trying) to set up a darkroom myself. There may be 1 or 2 others that still have access to a darkroom. I'm not so sure on how many members still have a film camera available. I think that this would limiting factor for the numbers of entries in such an appraisal (we are trying to stop referring to them as competitions now).

Perhaps we can do this as a "members night". Would you be willing to demonstrate the developing of film for the members? Also perhaps, a small talk letting us know why you still prefer film over digital - advantages, disadvantages etc... I for one would enjoy this, and I'm sure that many of our members would also, as some have not seen this aspect of photography. Especially since the meteoric rise in digital photography has brought many people back into photography, and many others into photography for the first time. So some of our members may not have had the opportunity to see how easy it is to develop film.

Best - Willie
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« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2009, 12:11:03 AM »

Hi Willie.
I would love to help out. I know I could get alone of some very base 35mm cameras I myself have 2 Canon  and 1 very old Zenith11 camera which I could lend out.
We could organise a day out one weekend, shot some film then develop the film one club night. The people that don't have access to a dark room could scanner there images using the clubs film scanner. That way they could work on there images in Photoshop. (I have all the film and chemicals here at home for doing this if people are up for it.)


Robert
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« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2009, 09:38:09 PM »

The idea of trying to tae a decent image using a film camera scares me - but I would be interested in knowing more about it and how it is developed. 
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« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2009, 03:12:55 PM »

Know your Camera

Guys I would really like an opportunity to reinforce the message regarding the importance of knowing you way around your camera - how to set it to manual for example.
Consequently a "Dial & Knobs" night is really important!!!

Kindest Regards

George
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« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2009, 12:28:32 PM »

I have to agree with George on this point.  If you know how to set up your camera, it doesn't matter if it is digital or film.  The only difference is that you need to wait to process the film to see your results, rather than looking at the back of the camera.   Smiley

On the subject of processing, I have some books that talk about setting up dark rooms, even using places like the bathroom in your house.  I think that the main thing to consider is how you black it out properly.  Also, for processing films, there is mention of using what looks like a bucket inside a dark bag to open the spool and then do the developing.  I have never tried it, but it sounds like it wouldn't take as much effort as converting the bathroom!

Taking the idea even further, what about for the equalizer this year to make up pin hole camera's using monochrome film. This way we would all really be equal.  If we can come up with a way to develop and print the images too without using digital manipulation i.e. Photoshop, this really would challenge us. 

Just an idea but I am sure it would take most of us out of our comfort zones!  Wink

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« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2009, 04:18:21 PM »

Robert just to thank you for your kind offer - I am sure that Gordon will snap up this opportunity!

George
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« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2009, 02:43:44 PM »

Hi Guys,

I have moved this topic over to a new board as you have seen - Film (Analogue). Perhaps we can discuss this topic further and get something set up for the new year - one of the member's nights. Thanks for bringing this up Robert.

I also like the idea of pinhole photography for the equalizer competition. I wonder if we sacrifice a (cheap) body cap with a fine drill hole, would we have something that would work. I think that you can also get small brass discs from somewhere with a very fine laser drilled hole in it, and perhaps this fixed on a body cap with a larger hole in it may also work. I will look into this.

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« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2009, 03:15:39 PM »

Hi Guys,

Well pinhole cameras are still alive and kicking! There are lots of ideas on how to make your own - from cardboard ones to body caps to dedicated ones (expensive), and even to making telephoto pinhole lenses!

Home made - cap conversion - http://www.camerahacker.com/EOS+Pin-Hole_Lens/index.shtml
Digital Pinhole - http://www.nothernlight-images.co.uk/article_pages/Canon_1ds_pinhole.html
Wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinhole_camera

Apparently the idea is to get the hole to be uniformly round and very small (f/250) in a very thin material - tinfoil may work. Any takers/experimenters?

Best - Willie
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« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2009, 05:28:31 PM »

Just another thought if anyone just wants to have a go at taken black and white Images, then developing there images just to see what it’s like. I am up for that too. It’s not as hard as you may think.
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